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	<title>Comments on: Why &#8220;geeks&#8221; aren&#8217;t helping</title>
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		<title>By: Jo Ind</title>
		<link>http://www.jonbounds.co.uk/blog/492/why-geeks-arent-helping/comment-page-1/#comment-803</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Ind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as someone who aspires to geekdom, I think the term &quot;geek&quot; is helpful.  It makes people who are comfortable and canny with technology seem less intimidating to technophobes.  This is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as someone who aspires to geekdom, I think the term &#8220;geek&#8221; is helpful.  It makes people who are comfortable and canny with technology seem less intimidating to technophobes.  This is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bounds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Bounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;It’s a marketing issue, really - we want people to know that a lot of this stuff is easy, cheap and accessible to their organisation…

It&#039;s easy and cheap, and can be done by anyone who cares to try - so it&#039;s not geeky.

&gt;Maybe this whole issue is analogous to professional chefs sharing their skills and knowledge?

Um, no don&#039;t see that - the word chef doesn&#039;t have negative connotations. I can&#039;t think of another area of work that degenerates itself so readily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>It’s a marketing issue, really &#8211; we want people to know that a lot of this stuff is easy, cheap and accessible to their organisation…</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy and cheap, and can be done by anyone who cares to try &#8211; so it&#8217;s not geeky.</p>
<p>>Maybe this whole issue is analogous to professional chefs sharing their skills and knowledge?</p>
<p>Um, no don&#8217;t see that &#8211; the word chef doesn&#8217;t have negative connotations. I can&#8217;t think of another area of work that degenerates itself so readily.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.jonbounds.co.uk/blog/492/why-geeks-arent-helping/comment-page-1/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jon,

I&#039;m responsible for the term - I thought it was &#039;bouncy&#039; and captured the essence of the idea fairly well - it came about from a discussion on the self-describing http://geekup.org community mailing list.

I just thought &#039;speak to a professional internet consultant&#039; didn&#039;t have the same ring to it :-)

I think you raise an interesting point about the potential for language reinforcing barriers for using techl, I&#039;m just not sure I agree that it causes any problems.

The idea for the event came about because we thought there was potentially a lack of knowledge about how to tackle issues such as setting up an effective search engine marketing strategy, using &#039;social media&#039; effectively etc. - if we&#039;re able to share our experiences, and yes, skills into helping those people who regard this stuff as complex, or an non-core activity, then I think the nomenclature is fine.

The &#039;Geeks&#039; are all professional consultants - professional in that they charge for their time and expertise as &#039;geeks&#039;; I think this does create a natural division of skills and labour - basic societal exchange, really :-)

It&#039;s a marketing issue, really - we want people to know that a lot of this stuff is easy, cheap and accessible to their organisation...

I know you&#039;re not having a go at the event (quite the opposite), but thought I&#039;d wade in :-)

Maybe this whole issue is analogous to professional chefs sharing their skills and knowledge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m responsible for the term &#8211; I thought it was &#8216;bouncy&#8217; and captured the essence of the idea fairly well &#8211; it came about from a discussion on the self-describing <a href="http://geekup.org" rel="nofollow">http://geekup.org</a> community mailing list.</p>
<p>I just thought &#8217;speak to a professional internet consultant&#8217; didn&#8217;t have the same ring to it <img src='http://www.jonbounds.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think you raise an interesting point about the potential for language reinforcing barriers for using techl, I&#8217;m just not sure I agree that it causes any problems.</p>
<p>The idea for the event came about because we thought there was potentially a lack of knowledge about how to tackle issues such as setting up an effective search engine marketing strategy, using &#8217;social media&#8217; effectively etc. &#8211; if we&#8217;re able to share our experiences, and yes, skills into helping those people who regard this stuff as complex, or an non-core activity, then I think the nomenclature is fine.</p>
<p>The &#8216;Geeks&#8217; are all professional consultants &#8211; professional in that they charge for their time and expertise as &#8216;geeks&#8217;; I think this does create a natural division of skills and labour &#8211; basic societal exchange, really <img src='http://www.jonbounds.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a marketing issue, really &#8211; we want people to know that a lot of this stuff is easy, cheap and accessible to their organisation&#8230;</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re not having a go at the event (quite the opposite), but thought I&#8217;d wade in <img src='http://www.jonbounds.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Maybe this whole issue is analogous to professional chefs sharing their skills and knowledge?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Unitt</title>
		<link>http://www.jonbounds.co.uk/blog/492/why-geeks-arent-helping/comment-page-1/#comment-800</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Unitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ties in nicely with this post from David Wilcox http://socialreporter.com/?p=512 (esp for the Steve Bridger tweet)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ties in nicely with this post from David Wilcox <a href="http://socialreporter.com/?p=512" rel="nofollow">http://socialreporter.com/?p=512</a> (esp for the Steve Bridger tweet)</p>
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